Champions League Format

John Murray, Ian Dennis & Ali Bruce-Ball talk football, travel & language. They reflect on a dramatic finish to the Champions League league phase and discuss ideas for changing the format. Plus unintended pub and film names returns, as does Clash of the Commentators along with the Great Glossary of Football Commentary. Suggestions welcome on WhatsApp voicenotes to 08000 289 369 & emails to [email protected] 02:00 John’s fall from grace 06:50 5 Live commentaries coming up 12:50 Champions League reflections 17:45 Does the format need changing? 21:00 Unintended pub and film names 31:50 Harry Maguire for England? 35:45 Clash of the Commentators 47:15 Great Glossary of Football Commentary 5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Sat 1500 Leeds v Arsenal, Sat 1500 Brighton v Everton on Sports Extram Sat 1730 Chelsea v West Ham, Sun 1400 Man Utd v Fulham , Sun 1400 Aston Villa v Brentford on Sports Extra, Sun 1400 Forest v Palace on Sports Extra 2, Sun 1630 Tottenham v Man City. Great Glossary of Football Commentary: DIVISION ONE Agricultural challenge, Back to square one, Bosman, Bullet header, Cruyff Turn, Cultured/educated left foot, Dead-ball specialist, Draught excluder, Elastico/flip-flap, False nine, Fox in the box, Giving the goalkeeper the eyes, Grub hunter, Head tennis, Hibs it, In a good moment, In behind, Magic of the FA Cup, The Maradona, Off their line, Olimpico, Onion bag, Panenka, Park the bus, Perfect hat-trick, Rabona, Roy of the Rovers stuff, Schmeichel-style, Scorpion kick, Spursy, Target man, Tiki-taka, Towering header, Trivela, Where the kookaburra sleeps, Where the owl sleeps, Where the spiders sleep. DIVISION TWO Back on the grass, Ball stays hit, Beaten all ends up, Blaze over the bar, Business end, Came down with snow on it, Catching practice, Camped in the opposition half, Cauldron atmosphere Coat is on a shoogly peg, Come back to haunt them, Corridor of uncertainty, Couldn’t sort their feet out, Easy tap-in, Daisy-cutter, First cab off the rank, Giant-killing, Good leave, Half-turn, Has that in his locker, High wide and not very handsome, Hospital pass, Howler, In the dugout, In their pocket, Johnny on the spot, Leading the line, Needed no second invitation, Nice headache to have, Nutmeg, On their bike, One for the cameras, One for the purists, Played us off the park, Points to the spot, Prawn sandwich brigade, Purple patch, Put their laces through it, Reaches for their pocket, Rolls Royce, Root and branch review, Row Z, Screamer, Seats on the plane, Show across the bows, Slide-rule pass, Steal a march, Straight in the bread basket, Stramash, Taking one for the team, Telegraphed that pass, Tired legs, That’s great… (football), Thunderous strike, Turns on a sixpence, Walk it in, We’ve got a cup tie on our hands. UNSORTED 2-0 is a dangerous score, After you Claude, All-Premier League affair, Aplomb, Bag/box of tricks, Brace, Brandished, Bread and butter, Breaking the deadlock, Bundled over the line, Champions elect / champions apparent, Clinical finish, Commentator’s curse, Coupon buster, Denied by the woodwork, Draught excluder, Elimination line, Fellow countryman, Foot race, Formerly of this parish, Free hit, Goalkeepers’ Union, Goalmouth scramble, Good touch for a big man, Honeymoon Period, In and around, In the shop window, Keeping ball under their spell, Keystone Cops defending, Languishing, Loitering with intent, Marching orders, Nestle in the bottom corner, Numbered derbies, Opposite number, PK for penalty-kick, Postage stamp, Put it in the mixer, Rasping shot, Red wine not white wine, Relegation six-pointer, Rooted at the bottom, Route One, Sending the goalkeeper the wrong way, Shooting boots, Sleeping giants, Slide rule pass, Small matter of, Spiders web, Stayed hit, Steepling, Stinging the palms, Stonewall penalty, Straight off the training ground, Taking one for the team, Team that likes to play football, Throw their cap on it, Thruppenny bit head / 50p head, Two good feet, Turning into a basketball match, Turning into a cricket score, Usher/Shepherd the ball out of play, Walking a disciplinary tightrope, Wand of a left foot, Wrap foot around it, Your De Bruynes, your Gundogans etc.

Jonathan Pearce joins John Murray & Ian Dennis to talk football, travel & language. John is back from Bodø, Jonathan tells tales of changing football on the radio, his thoughts on the Cantona kung-fu kick commentary & Robot Wars reflections. Plus which commentary phrase will JP add to our Great Glossary? Suggestions welcome on WhatsApp voicenotes to 08000 289 369 & emails to [email protected] 00:25 John back from Bodø, 04:00 5 Live commentaries this weekend, 10:55 Does Jonathan like the new Champions League format? 13:15 How Jonathan changed football on the radio, 24:35 Jonathan’s best gaffes, 32:25 Cantona’s kung-fu kick, 39:05 Robot Wars reflections, 44:40 Great Glossary of Football Commentary, 54:05 Bonus Bobby Moore story. 5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Sat 1500 Burnley v Tottenham, Sat 1500 Man City v Wolves, Sat 1730 Bournemouth v Liverpool. Sun 1400 Newcastle v Aston Villa, Sun 1400 Crystal Palace v Chelsea on Sports Extra, Sun 1400 Brentford v Nott’m Forest on Sports Extra 2, Sun 1630 Arsenal v Man Utd, Wed 2000 PSG v Newcastle, Wed 2000 Man City v Galatasaray on Sports Extra, Wed 2000 Napoli v Chelsea on Sports Extra 2. Great Glossary of Football Commentary: DIVISION ONE Back to square one, Bosman, Cruyff Turn, Cultured/educated left foot, Dead-ball specialist, Draught excluder, Elastico/flip-flap Fox in the box, Giving the goalkeeper the eyes, Grub hunter, Head tennis, Hibs it, In a good moment, In behind, Magic of the FA Cup, The Maradona, Off their line, Olimpico, Onion bag, Panenka, Park the bus, Perfect hat-trick, Rabona, Roy of the Rovers stuff, Schmeichel-style, Scorpion kick, Spursy, Tiki-taka, Trivela, Where the kookaburra sleeps, Where the owl sleeps, Where the spiders sleep. DIVISION TWO Back on the grass, Ball stays hit, Beaten all ends up, Blaze over the bar, Business end, Came down with snow on it, Catching practice, Camped in the opposition half, Cauldron atmosphere Coat is on a shoogly peg, Come back to haunt them, Corridor of uncertainty, Couldn’t sort their feet out, Easy tap-in, Daisy-cutter, First cab off the rank, Giant-killing, Good leave, Half-turn, Has that in his locker, High wide and not very handsome, Hospital pass, Howler, In the dugout, In their pocket, Johnny on the spot, Leading the line, Nice headache to have, Nutmeg, On their bike, One for the cameras, One for the purists, Played us off the park, Points to the spot, Prawn sandwich brigade, Purple patch, Put their laces through it, Reaches for their pocket, Rolls Royce, Root and branch review, Row Z, Screamer, Seats on the plane, Show across the bows, Slide-rule pass, Steal a march, Straight in the bread basket, Stramash, Taking one for the team, Telegraphed that pass, Tired legs, That’s great… (football), Thunderous strike, Turns on a sixpence, Walk it in, We’ve got a cup tie on our hands. UNSORTED 2-0 is a dangerous score, After you Claude, All-Premier League affair, Aplomb, Bag/box of tricks, Brace, Brandished, Bread and butter, Breaking the deadlock, Bundled over the line, Champions elect / champions apparent, Clinical finish, Commentator’s curse, Coupon buster, Denied by the woodwork, Draught excluder, Elimination line, Fellow countryman, Foot race, Formerly of this parish, Free hit, Goalkeepers’ Union, Goalmouth scramble, Good touch for a big man, Honeymoon Period, In and around, In the shop window, Keeping ball under their spell, Keystone Cops defending, Languishing, Loitering with intent, Marching orders, Nestle in the bottom corner, Numbered derbies, Opposite number, PK for penalty-kick, Postage stamp, Put it in the mixer, Rasping shot, Red wine not white wine, Relegation six-pointer, Rooted at the bottom, Route One, Sending the goalkeeper the wrong way, Shooting boots, Sleeping giants, Slide rule pass, Small matter of, Spiders web, Stayed hit, Steepling, Stinging the palms, Stonewall penalty, Straight off the training ground, Taking one for the team, Team that likes to play football, Throw their cap on it, Thruppenny bit head / 50p head, Towering header, Two good feet, Turning into a basketball match, Turning into a cricket score, Usher/Shepherd the ball out of play, Walking a disciplinary tightrope, Wand of a left foot, Wrap foot around it, Your De Bruynes, your Gundogans etc.

On an evening of mayhem across Europe, Man City got the job done and avoided Champions League elimination, beating Club Brugge 3-1 to progress into the knockout phase. But is the prospect of Real Madrid or Bayern Munich in the play-off something Pep Guardiola's side will relish? Elsewhere, with Jhon Duran set to leave for Saudi Arabia and Arsenal interested in Ollie Watkins, could Aston Villa’s front line look a little different in the knockout stages? Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's James Horncastle and Phil Hay to reflect on an action-packed final night of the league phase of the revamped Champions League, while Aston Villa correspondent Jacob Tanswell joins to discuss the latest around both Duran and Watkins. Host: Ayo Akinwolere With: James Horncastle, Phil Hay and Jacob Tanswell Executive Producer: Adey Moorhead Producer: Guy Clarke Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nathan Ake is back on the Official Man City Podcast as our latest guest... The Netherlands international returns for our latest episode as he sits down with host Liam Loftus for a fascinating chat. Since his last appearance on the Official Man City Podcast, Ake has collected a fourth winners’ medal in his fourth season since joining the Club. But he has not lost any of his desire, discussing his frustrations at missing early parts of the campaign. He also discusses watching the Treble documentary Together and how it reminded him that every season has it’s difficult moments. It’s not the only viewing habit Nathan shares, revealing a liking for Channel 4 favourite Gogglebox. In a wide-ranging conversation, he also talks about fatherhood, the new Champions League format and moving to England as a youngster. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s Jimbo, Duncan Alexander, Raphael Honigstein and Charlie Eccleshare in The Athletic studio as the Champions League group stage comes to a close. A humbling midweek for English clubs sees Newcastle and Man United drop out of Europe altogether. Will the Magpies now go back to being the team they were last season? And will Man United avoid another drubbing at Anfield on Sunday? Other questions posed by this weekend’s football include can Liverpool juggle the Europa League with a title bid? Can Pochettino get Chelsea back on track? And can Sean Dyche start getting some credit? Plus Rapha explains the new Champions League format and we remember Fabio Capello’s time as England manager. Produced by Charlie Jones. RUNNING ORDER: • PART 1a: Champions League round-up (01.45) • PART 1b: Newcastle 1-2 Milan (04.00) • PART 1c: Dortmund 1-1 PSG (11.30) • PART 2: Man United 0-1 Bayern & the new UCL format (16.00) • PART 3a: Liverpool v Man Utd preview (25.00) • PART 3b: Man City v Palace & Arsenal v Brighton previews (35.00) • PART 4a: On This Day - England pick Capello (40.00) • PART 4b: The rest of the Premier League weekend (43.00) SIGN UP TO THE ATHLETIC TODAY FOR £19.99 FOR 12 MONTHS • theathletic.com/totally Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.