Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In today’s episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore one of the most powerful stories in football history: Zambia’s remarkable triumph at the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations. Jonathan, who covered the 2012 tournament on the ground, shares firsthand reflections of what he calls the most emotional press box moment he’s ever experienced. Nineteen years after a devastating plane crash claimed the lives of their national squad, Zambia rose from the ashes to claim continental glory. This episode retraces their journey - from the tragedy off the coast of Gabon in 1993, the rebuilding efforts led by legendary captain Kalusha Bwalya, right through to their unforgettable victory on penalties in the very same country that witnessed their darkest hour. 00:00 The Final Match: A Battle Beyond the Pitch 00:15 Introduction to an Inspiring and Tragic Football Story 00:36 Zambia's Uplifting Victory After Tragedy 02:26 The 1993 Plane Crash: A National Tragedy 04:37 Zambia's Football Rise in the Late 80s 08:15 The Aftermath of the Crash and the Struggle for Resources 18:42 Rebuilding the Team: The Role of Kaia and New Coaches 24:01 The 2012 African Cup of Nations Journey 25:06 The Quarterfinals and Beyond 27:01 Gabon vs. Mali: A Penalty Heartbreak 27:30 Unexpected Journey to Bata 31:12 Ghana's Complacency and Zambia's Rise 38:38 The Emotional Beach Ceremony 40:27 The Dramatic Final Against Ivory Coast 51:10 Zambia's Historic Victory 52:16 Reflecting on the Significance Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The 2025 Concacaf Gold Cup draw is in the books, and the USMNT has learned its group stage opponents. Jimmy Conrad, Charlie Davies, and Tony Meola breakdown the groups and lay out their expectations for Mauricio Pochettino’s side heading into their final competitive tournament before the 2026 World Cup. The guys discuss what a successful Gold Cup run looks like, the importance of establishing a clear identity, and whether Jamaica could be this year's dark horse. Plus, thoughts on Mexico and Canada’s paths, the looming threat of Panama, and the issue of dwindling attendances. Later in the show, the crew reacts to the news that MLS owners are undecided on a switch to a fall-to-spring calendar, and discuss the changes to the men’s Olympic soccer format. Call It What You Want is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the Call It What You Want team on X: @JimmyConrad, @CharlieDavies9, @TMeola1 Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest in sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos for betting on soccer. For more soccer coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can also watch Call It What You Want on the CBS Sports Golazo Network for free on connected TVs and mobile devices through the CBS Sports app, Pluto TV, and on CBSSports.com as well as Paramount+. Sign up to the Golazo newsletter, your ultimate guide to the Beautiful Game as our experts take you beyond the pitch and around the globe with news that matters. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Los Angeles, California, four nations collided in a football tournament with an inescapable geopolitical backdrop. Canada, Mexico and Panama have all found themselves in the crosshairs of President Donald Trump within his first 100 days in office, and they all met, with the US, in the Nations League finals. Adam Leventhal has been looking into what happens when the sport and politics are thrust together like this speaking with the players, stakeholders and fans to find out how they feel about the various subplots surrounding this tournament and the 2026 World Cup. How do the co-hosts put on a united front when so much of the talk is of division? Host: Adam Leventhal Exec Prod: Abi Paterson Featuring audio from: The Daily, The Headlines, CBS, NBC, CSPAN, ESPN Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jimmy Conrad and Charlie Davies try to put the world to rights after a bitterly disappointing Concacaf Nations League campaign by the USMNT. Nothing is off the table as the guys discuss player entitlement and Mauricio Pochettino's "head scratching" tactics against Panama and Canada. Does the best version of the team include Weston McKennie (06:15)? The galvanizing effect of a signature win, the most missed pieces on the roster, and concerns about the spine of the team (27:25). And what can the coaching staff do to correct course during June camp (49:39)? Call It What You Want is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the Call It What You Want team on X: @JimmyConrad, @CharlieDavies9, @TMeola1 Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest in sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos for betting on soccer. For more soccer coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can also watch Call It What You Want on the CBS Sports Golazo Network for free on connected TVs and mobile devices through the CBS Sports app, Pluto TV, and on CBSSports.com as well as Paramount+. Watch UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League, UEFA Europa Conference League, EFL, Serie A, Coppa Italia, CONCACAF Nations League, NWSL, Scottish Premiership, Brasileiro, Argentine Primera División, AFC Champion League by subscribing to Paramount+ Sign up to the Golazo newsletter, your ultimate guide to the Beautiful Game as our experts take you beyond the pitch and around the globe with news that matters. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

ROUND THE WORLD: postmortem of USMNT's nightmarish international break featuring lifeless losses to Panama (0-1) and Canada (1-2), featuring who is to blame and what needs to change HALFTIME: What If we had Dest and Jedi available this window... and Josh Sargent's turn in Compliment Corner MLS HIT-IT-N-QUIT-IT MINUTE PREMIER LEAGUE: FA Cup quarterfinals preview STOPPAGE TIME: Ivan Toney's Best Bets and GOAWs

Brutal. Vince and Belz talk through what we got wrong, what else might be wrong, and the cruelty of a sport that doesn't let you take 5 seconds off. Vince IDs some problems with the scheme. Everybody IDs problems with the selection. Maybe this lights a fire under Poch.

IT’S ROG… and it’s the WGFOP Weekend Preview, presented by our good friends at PrizePicks. We were hoping to be looking forward to a CONCACAF Nations League final, but, alas. Instead, Rog hears from tons of GFOP with their thoughts on last night’s defeat to Panama and asks what this means for Pochettino and the USMNT going forward. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Alexi Lalas, David Mosse, Stu Holden and John Strong recap the U.S. Men's National Team’s shocking 1-0 loss to Panama live from SoFi Stadium. Panama’s Cecilio Waterman scored the winner at the death to advance Los Canaleros to the CONCACAF Nations League Finals. The USMNT has now been eliminated by Panama in three-straight major tournaments including the 2024 Copa America and 2023 CONCACAF Gold Cup. The guys discussed what this result means for the future and how expectations may have to shift after multiple disappointing losses. Is the “golden generation” not so golden? The USMNT faces Canada on Sunday in the CONCACAF Nations League 3rd-place match. USMNT vs Panama: Alexi and Stu's instant reaction to loss (0:00) Final Thoughts (5:57) Is the USMNT as good as we thought? (12:30) Canada vs USMNT Preview (29:05) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jimmy Conrad and special guest host Jonathan Bornstein pick over the wreckage of the USA's disastrous night at SoFi Stadium, losing 1-0 to Panama. Chris Wittyngham joins fresh off the call to analyze what went wrong for the reigning champions. Tony Meola delivers some harsh truths about Matt Turner's lack of sharpness and Mauricio Pochettino's questionable tactics. And why can't the USMNT figure out set pieces?! Call It What You Want is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the Call It What You Want team on X: @JimmyConrad, @CharlieDavies9, @TMeola1 Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest in sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos for betting on soccer. For more soccer coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can also watch Call It What You Want on the CBS Sports Golazo Network for free on connected TVs and mobile devices through the CBS Sports app, Pluto TV, and on CBSSports.com as well as Paramount+. Watch UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League, UEFA Europa Conference League, EFL, Serie A, Coppa Italia, CONCACAF Nations League, NWSL, Scottish Premiership, Brasileiro, Argentine Primera División, AFC Champion League by subscribing to Paramount+ Sign up to the Golazo newsletter, your ultimate guide to the Beautiful Game as our experts take you beyond the pitch and around the globe with news that matters. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices